Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3...... Nc6

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C281.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Nc6
Feb 17, 2028
TL;DR

Both sides develop naturally and the position becomes a quiet Italian-Vienna hybrid. White can still try f4 for a delayed King's Gambit or settle for d3 and a slow build with c3 and d4, while Black aims for ...Bc5 and short castling.

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Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3...... Nc6: A Complete Guide
Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3...... Nc6 - Opening Moves
Summary

1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Nc6 opens the Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3... Nc6, ECO C28. Black declines the messy Frankenstein-Dracula complications and develops normally, treating the Vienna like a slightly tweaked Italian Game.

History and Notable Players

It arises from the Vienna Game: Nf6. On the White side, Jacques Mieses (29 games), Ian Rogers (16 games), Andjelko Dragojlovic (16 games) top the database. Notable Black exponents: Christoph Renner (7 games), Philippe Glod (7 games), Frantisek Blatny (6 games).

Performance Across Rating Levels

The picture changes a lot as you climb the rating ladder. Among 1200-rated players, it appears in 0.26% of games — 1,769,211 of them on record — with White winning 50.6% and Black 45.6%. By 1800, popularity is 0.18% and White's score is 50.3% to Black's 45.1%. At the top end (2500+ Elo), popularity is 0.13% with 10.5% draws — a clear sign of how much theory rules the line at master level. White's edge erodes by 6.3pp from 1200 to 2500 Elo, suggesting Black's counterplay is easier to find with experience.

Time Control Patterns

Time control matters here: rapid players reach for this opening more than others. In bullet, it appears in 0.17% of games (4,524,381); White wins 51.4%. Blitz shows 0.21% adoption across 7,507,729 games, White scoring 50.7%. In rapid, the share rises to 0.25% — 2,749,398 games, White 49.8%.

Move Diversity and Theory Depth

What players actually play after the opening moves depends heavily on rating. At 1200 Elo, the top reply is d3, played 41.8% of the time. There are 3 other moves seeing meaningful share, and 86.7% of games stick to established theory. Entropy: 2.06. By 2500, d3 dominates at 93.8% of replies; only 1 viable alternatives remain and 98.2% of moves are theory. Entropy drops to 0.47. The narrowing is significant — strong players consolidate around a small set of best moves, while amateurs scatter across many plausible-looking options.

Long-term, the trajectory of this opening is informative. Adoption peaked in 2023 at 0.25% (1,982,370 games). By 2025 it sits at 0.24% — a 45% shift overall, leaving the line on the rise.

Common Mistakes

  • Neglecting development — Extra pawn moves in the opening are tempting, especially when you "know the moves". Developing a piece each turn is the simple correction.
  • Playing without a plan — Each Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3... Nc6 middlegame demands a specific approach. Decide whether the position calls for attack, manoeuvre, or simplification before reaching for a move.

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Quick Facts

Main Line1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Nc6
DifficultyIntermediate
Parent OpeningVienna Game: Nf6
Style

Romantic openings prioritize piece activity, open lines, and direct attacks on the king over material considerations. They echo the swashbuckling style of 19th-century chess masters.

10,257,127games on Lichess
50.5%
4.2%
45.3%
White wins Draws Black wins

Top Players

As White

Data from Lichess opening explorer (blitz & rapid)

Most Popular At1200
SharpnessVery Sharp

Popularity by Rating

Percentage of all games at each rating bracket that feature this opening.

Data from Lichess opening explorer (blitz & rapid games)

Theory Adherence by Rating

How often players choose the single most popular move at this position. Higher = more predictable play.

White to move after the opening line

Popularity Over Time

Share of all Lichess blitz + rapid games featuring this opening, by year.

Top Moves by Rating

White to move after the opening line

RatingMost Popular2nd3rd
400Nf351.4%d327.9%Qf34.9%
1000Nf344.3%d335.3%f45.5%
1200d341.8%Nf338.4%f46.6%
1400d348.5%Nf331.1%f47.2%
1600d354.2%Nf324.2%f47.3%
1800d361.2%Nf317.5%a37.4%
2000d371.1%Nf311.2%f46.2%
2200d385.4%Nf35.5%f44.1%
2500d393.8%Nf32.6%f41.9%

Popularity by Time Control

Bullet
0.17%4.5M
Blitz
0.21%7.5M
Rapid
0.25%2.7M
2% more decisive in bullet
Raw data tables (Lichess blitz + rapid)
Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3...... Nc6: popularity and win rates by player rating
Rating (Elo)Share %GamesWhite win %Black win %Draw %Sharpness
4000.22517,83249.646.14.30.957
10000.251,051,19949.946.23.90.961
12000.261,769,21150.645.63.80.962
14000.252,262,33150.945.33.80.962
16000.222,172,67651.044.94.10.959
18000.181,530,68550.345.14.70.953
20000.15687,70949.545.15.40.946
22000.15247,68948.944.17.00.930
25000.1317,79544.345.210.50.895
Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3...... Nc6: move-choice theory adherence by rating
Rating (Elo)Top moveTop move %Viable movesTheory %Entropy
400Nf351.4284.22.098
1000Nf344.3385.12.104
1200d341.8386.72.065
1400d348.5486.82.022
1600d354.2485.71.967
1800d361.2486.11.841
2000d371.1488.51.543
2200d385.4295.00.928
2500d393.8198.20.465
Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3...... Nc6: popularity over time
YearShare %GamesWhite win %Black win %Draw %
20130.164,72553.942.83.4
20140.1513,14352.643.24.2
20150.1431,89452.243.94.0
20160.1489,02851.944.14.0
20170.14158,84551.444.54.1
20180.14266,28751.344.64.1
20190.15419,35851.244.74.1
20200.181,020,13050.744.84.5
20210.231,731,53850.345.54.2
20220.231,735,15250.445.54.1
20230.251,982,37050.245.54.2
20240.241,774,97350.345.44.3
20250.241,766,81850.445.44.2
Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3...... Nc6: popularity by time control
FormatShare %GamesWhite win %Black win %Draw %Sharpness
bullet0.174,524,38151.445.92.80.972
blitz0.217,507,72950.745.24.10.959
rapid0.252,749,39849.845.74.40.956
Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3...... Nc6: top candidate moves by rating bracket
Rating (Elo)1st move1st %2nd move2nd %3rd move3rd %
400Nf351.4d327.9Qf34.9
1000Nf344.3d335.3f45.5
1200d341.8Nf338.4f46.6
1400d348.5Nf331.1f47.2
1600d354.2Nf324.2f47.3
1800d361.2Nf317.5a37.4
2000d371.1Nf311.2f46.2
2200d385.4Nf35.5f44.1
2500d393.8Nf32.6f41.9
Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3...... Nc6: top practitioners by side
SidePlayerGames
WhiteJacques Mieses29
WhiteIan Rogers16
WhiteAndjelko Dragojlovic16
BlackChristoph Renner7
BlackPhilippe Glod7
BlackFrantisek Blatny6

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3... Nc6?

The Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3... Nc6 begins with 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Nc6 and is classified under ECO code C28.

Is the Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3... Nc6 good for beginners?

Yes, the Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3... Nc6 is an excellent choice for beginners. The plans are relatively straightforward, and the key ideas are easy to understand. As you improve, you can explore deeper theoretical lines. Practice against our beginner-level bots to build confidence.

What are the win rates for the Vienna Game: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3... Nc6?

In a database of 10,257,127 master games, White wins 50.5% of the time, Black wins 45.3%, and 4.2% are drawn. Notable players on the White side include Jacques Mieses and Ian Rogers. On the Black side, Christoph Renner and Philippe Glod are among the most frequent practitioners.

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Reviewed by

IM John Bartholomew
IM John BartholomewCo-Founder & Chess Educator

International Master and chess educator. Co-founded Chessable and joined Chessiverse as co-founder. Best known for his "Climbing the Rating Ladder" YouTube series and structured opening courses.

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